Thursday, 29 July 2021

Genius or Gibberish?



I have only read snippets of Gertrude Stein. Her work is not easy to read, and it is claimed that her exceptionally long major opus 'The Making of Americans' has only been read cover-to-cover by about half a dozen people.

Stein's popularity, like the length of women's skirts, rises and falls in phases. At present she's probably not over popular.

The one piece of work that always fascinated me was her libretto to Virgil Thomson's 1928 opera 'Four Saints in Three Acts'. A pure Dada, possibly Bauhaus influenced, stream of consciousness work, that accompanied Thomson's music, rather than enhanced it.

I can't remember when or where I first encountered this particular 'poem'; maybe at Art College, or more likely through the ICA (of which I was a member in the late 60's, when Concrete Poetry was at its most popular).

Anyway, here below is the most well known aria (poem), which appealed to me all those years ago. What I see in it now is another question!


Pigeons on the grass alas

Pigeons on the grass alas. Short longer grass short longer longer shorter yellow grass. Pigeons large pigeons on the shorter longer yellow grass alas pigeons on the grass.

If they were not pigeons what were they

If they were not pigeons on the grass alas what were they. He had heard of a third and he asked about it it was a magpie in the sky

If a magpie in the sky on the sky cannot cry if the pigeon on the grass alas can alas and to pass the pigeon on the grass alas and the magpie in the sky on the sky and to try alas on the grass alas the pigeon on the grass the pigeon on the grass and alas

They might be very well they might be very well very well they might be

Let Lucy Lily Lily Lucy Lucy let Lucy Lucy Lily Lily Lily Lily Lily let Lily Lucy Lucy let Lily. Let Lucy Lily


(me) I hope I've managed to type all that correctly. Enjoy (if you can).


30 comments:

  1. Well it made us go and do some research on Gertrude Stein, (of whom we had never heard) which only raised a lot more questions...I'm in the 'gibberish' camp, but as is so often the case in this world the true genius lay in convincing people it is meaningful. (Emperor's new clothes....) Possibly her success in that was enhanced by the company she kept, many of whom were true genius.

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    1. And her collection of paintings showed very avant garde taste.

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  2. All I know of her is that her art collection survived WW2 in Paris, wasn't taken by the Germans and she was said to be a Nazi sympathizer and admired Hitler. I didn't know she had written this poetry.

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    1. She left her entire collection of paintings to Alice Toklas, but Stein's family got there first and took them all.

      As a Jew living in Paris, maybe it was circumspect to announce admiration for Hitler.

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    2. True. But I remember she had a fairly dodgy friend big nib with the Nazis.

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    3. They had friends all over; even in the UK. Some people have a strange view of life.

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    1. Taking sides in warfare is always dodgy; especially when you side with the baddies.

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  4. I've only heard of her through Woody Allen. He mentions her in his stand-up comedy and she is a character (played by Cathy Bates) in his film Midnight in Paris.

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    1. I have mostly known of her through her art collection, but she thought of herself as a poet and writer.

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  5. Sorry, but I will put this with hardcore rap music.

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  6. I suppose that it has something to do with birds on the ground and birds in the sky and the fact that no one questions their belonging to where ever they might be...But be born a woman? Back in her day, people had very strong opinions of where women belonged.

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    1. You may be right, but I suppose we'll never know. She would no doubt have said that whatever it meant to anyone was fine with her.

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    2. That's actually a wonderful idea - that words fall differently on different ears and it is fine.

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  7. She never was my 'cup of tea' and this 'poem' doesn't make me any more enthusiastic about her work.

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    1. She's not going into my book of favourites, but I always enjoy innovation, and experimentation.

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  8. Alas, I really don't like pigeons.

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  9. I love your variety! Thanks. Though not my 'cup of tea' I do enjoy odd people and people who have their own points of view - even when I don't agree with 'em. Sometimes, I find I actually learn something new - or at least reaffirm that my own view is best - as a result of the exposure. Again, thanks!

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    1. Thank you Tim. I do try to be as varied as possible. GS was certainly an interesting woman. I wonder if she's more appreciated in Europe than at home in the US? I believe she spent most of her life here in France; just as I have!

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  10. In my humble opinion, Gertrude needed a bit of guidance when it came to writing poetry because "Pigeons on the grass" is not good (I had to self-censor here).

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    1. She skipped school the day they studied 'rhyming'.

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  11. Her art collection and the company she kept were more appealing than her poetry. That said, she led her life, her way.

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    1. I certainly think that was the most interesting side of her life. Her art collection was 'visionary'.

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  12. I confess I have not read any Stein. A quotation from her work ("there isn't any there there") became ubiquitous several years ago because of politicians and I became quite tired of hearing it. I did see a special exhibit about her art collection a number of years ago at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, which I enjoyed.

    Love,
    Janie

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    1. We mustn't forget that she also coined the word 'Gay' for meaning homosexual. She would have been amused to know that it is now accepted universally.

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  13. Decades ago when I was at University I played in the pit orchestra for a production of this sung by the University Opera students. It seemed rather tongue in cheek and I quite enjoyed it. -A.K.

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