tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post3376705128358440172..comments2024-03-28T13:49:48.236+00:00Comments on Magnon's Meanderings: How Strikes Work.Cro Magnonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-10160577641677636942022-06-24T09:42:22.113+01:002022-06-24T09:42:22.113+01:00I think you are on the dreaded farcebook..so shoul...I think you are on the dreaded farcebook..so should be able to read this...<br />https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10225924714358243&id=1045800049&set=a.10208847142789627&source=48<br />You never get the real background in the papersgzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08034777779347889773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-52139395973827463672022-06-24T08:32:47.433+01:002022-06-24T08:32:47.433+01:00Long term grudges are his speciality and he is not...Long term grudges are his speciality and he is not familiar with the Sermon on the Mount that's for sure. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-23837851154178062512022-06-23T20:23:05.532+01:002022-06-23T20:23:05.532+01:00Rachel, reasoning isn't YP's strong point....Rachel, reasoning isn't YP's strong point. Maybe it got lost somewhere in the pudding or its glutinous gravy.<br /><br />YP, you "will defend to the death [anyone's] right to say it"? It? Is that why you deny those who, say, by way of example, Rachel, you don't give the time of day? I call bullshit. Not surprised you are afraid of cows. Like dogs they can smell fear.<br /><br />UUrsulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722046288685936851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-42053971415338573652022-06-23T10:32:45.760+01:002022-06-23T10:32:45.760+01:00It's funny that you are one of the few people ...It's funny that you are one of the few people using comment moderation on your blog and censoring all comments you receive.Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-15895014057747652662022-06-23T09:13:51.316+01:002022-06-23T09:13:51.316+01:00They want to keep it that way. They want to keep it that way. Tasker Dunhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17634612033217902946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-8521798277118739732022-06-23T06:39:35.221+01:002022-06-23T06:39:35.221+01:00YP, cut out the flannel and just say what you want...YP, cut out the flannel and just say what you want to say. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-88333147440251967762022-06-23T04:10:16.241+01:002022-06-23T04:10:16.241+01:00And very little good, either to workers or their i...And very little good, either to workers or their industries, has ever been achieved through striking. As the hard-working Japanese always say "It wouldn't be in the interest of my company for me to strike". Ask any ex-miner to see if he agrees!Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-23946068592920653522022-06-23T04:07:10.886+01:002022-06-23T04:07:10.886+01:00Railway workers are very well paid. Railway workers are very well paid. Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-34516694394633359452022-06-23T00:50:07.620+01:002022-06-23T00:50:07.620+01:00I disagree entirely with what you say but I will d...I disagree entirely with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Any rights or benefits that trade unionists ever achieved were only gained through struggle. It was true then and it's true today.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-8478525196488348332022-06-22T17:09:18.898+01:002022-06-22T17:09:18.898+01:00They've seen the erosion in pay that has happe...They've seen the erosion in pay that has happened bit by bit in some sectors when you don't take a stand. Tasker Dunhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17634612033217902946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-73454183963619114352022-06-22T14:47:29.235+01:002022-06-22T14:47:29.235+01:00What the fuck has Russia to do with it? Have you e...What the fuck has Russia to do with it? Have you ever employed anyone that didn't come to fix something you couldn't?<br />I give up here. Adrian Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09061432566298145837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-49038449463014622502022-06-22T14:16:31.506+01:002022-06-22T14:16:31.506+01:00Unions should be there to act on behalf of workers...Unions should be there to act on behalf of workers, to defend their rights, and to make sure they all have a good living wage. They should not be there to try to bring down governments. Unions will always be 'left wing', but they shouldn't be overtly so.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-3603392677042361662022-06-22T14:13:40.356+01:002022-06-22T14:13:40.356+01:00If you look deeper into the history, Scargill was ...If you look deeper into the history, Scargill was backed into a corner by politics...but there you go, you have your opinion...gzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08034777779347889773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-776166126211449492022-06-22T14:12:28.512+01:002022-06-22T14:12:28.512+01:00Some of the profits will always go back to the inv...Some of the profits will always go back to the investors, otherwise they wouldn't invest and there'd be no Company. I don't believe in looking for very successful Co's, and taxing the hell out of them. All Co's should pay their fair share of taxes, leaving enough to invest in their futures, and pay something back to the shareholders.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-90466186952161009562022-06-22T14:05:48.689+01:002022-06-22T14:05:48.689+01:00When employers are getting away with pay their emp...When employers are getting away with pay their employees unliveable wages, as happens here in, strikes are a powerful tool. I will not claim to know what the particulars of the rail strike, I will tell you that here, profits usually go to the share holders, not for massive expansion such as the one you describe for google. The trickle down theory is a myth in my country.Debbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09531125606268748793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-81087282212968943582022-06-22T13:54:15.696+01:002022-06-22T13:54:15.696+01:00Currently, in the US new Unions are forming to ach...Currently, in the US new Unions are forming to achieve a living wage and benefits for employees. For example, Starbucks and Amazon workers are unionizing slowly and it is driven by employees. I'm all for profitability. <br /> That said, corporate greed needs to be countered. Let's acknowledge, without employees there would be no corporation. I am invested in Corporate America (as well as internationally) but I do see the value of the worker. Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14473063249106111719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-85523877679447955932022-06-22T13:05:13.002+01:002022-06-22T13:05:13.002+01:00I don't know if Unions still exist in Russia, ...I don't know if Unions still exist in Russia, but they always worked FOR their members; never against. They built hospitals, holiday hotels, sports facilities, and other recreational facilities. That's what Unions should be doing everywhere.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-1636249821687580682022-06-22T13:00:21.668+01:002022-06-22T13:00:21.668+01:00Rail workers are very well paid in the UK. I don&#...Rail workers are very well paid in the UK. I don't know what their gripe is; even if they have one. This is a politically driven strike which will end with more unemployment.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-52434860630412872252022-06-22T12:17:54.793+01:002022-06-22T12:17:54.793+01:00It's the right or should be for any employee t...It's the right or should be for any employee to decide whether to work or strike. <br />It is also the employer's right to pay what he wishes to. If there is a labour shortage then wages rise if a glut wages fall.<br />What the employer should do is shut them out completely and not allow them to come and go as they please. They can come back when a settlement is agreed.<br />The railways should be privatised completely or nationalised entirely. This halfway house causes confusion.<br />Unions can be a good thing if localised, It saves negotiating with dozens of folk and settling with the competent ones and upsetting the borderline useful. It all went wrong with the massive increase of state employees. Like Comprehensive education everything heads for the median and the median gets lower.Adrian Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09061432566298145837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-50740209466915225942022-06-22T11:09:23.163+01:002022-06-22T11:09:23.163+01:00As you would guess, I don't agree with much of...As you would guess, I don't agree with much of what you wrote. I've not seen any evidence of the need for police action. The unions are making a strike protest. Unions and withdrawal of labour are the only powers workers have and it is very unfortunate that union leaders get above themselves, power wise and money wise at times.<br /><br />When matters get so bad between management and workers strike, I see it as very poor management that is paid far more than people who actually do the work on the ground, or in this case in the cab or the platform. Management has failed in its task of managing its workforce well if the workers get to the point of striking. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-78987517919645892242022-06-22T08:59:53.562+01:002022-06-22T08:59:53.562+01:00Very few strikes benefit the workers. Scargill'...Very few strikes benefit the workers. Scargill's silly strike is a good example. The Coal Board wanted to close 13 worked-out pits, the government gave permission to close 11, and it all ended with 200,000 miners unemployed. If that's what you consider to be for their welfare, then I beg to differ!Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-39054946074811601622022-06-22T08:49:02.661+01:002022-06-22T08:49:02.661+01:00A rather biased view.
Many strikes are prompted by...A rather biased view.<br />Many strikes are prompted by political action of governments, of whatever colour.<br />Unions are there for the welfare of workers on one hand, and to meditate on their behalf for the well being of both the workers and the employers. After all both need to continue.<br />To demonise either makes no sense.<br /><br />You have to look deeper and question what is the political agenda behind government involvement, whether covert or not.gzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08034777779347889773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-73952334168607131482022-06-22T08:30:04.856+01:002022-06-22T08:30:04.856+01:00High profits are usually turned into investment; t...High profits are usually turned into investment; that's how big companies grow. Take away those profits and you take away expansion and the extra employment that it brings. Classic examples include our beloved Google, who have just built a new £1 Billion new office block in London, as well as leasing a further 70,000 sq ft office space. The Socialists wanted to seriously tax them, which would have put a halt to their investment. As it is there are an extra 5,000 employees who are all paying large amounts of income tax.<br />Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-16981590345383110592022-06-22T08:14:51.087+01:002022-06-22T08:14:51.087+01:00What about taxing the profits? The obscene billion...What about taxing the profits? The obscene billions that many corporations make at the expense of we poor people, who often have to choose between heating or eating. Would that be okay? Riverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794655013673748992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-28356740612224918072022-06-22T06:34:50.220+01:002022-06-22T06:34:50.220+01:00He should keep a VERY low profile, considering all...He should keep a VERY low profile, considering all the damage he did.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.com