tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post793724828328005949..comments2024-03-28T13:49:48.236+00:00Comments on Magnon's Meanderings: Calais.Cro Magnonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-79296297301301729782015-06-30T14:49:39.068+01:002015-06-30T14:49:39.068+01:00Dear Scarlet, I really do think you're living ...Dear Scarlet, I really do think you're living in cloudcukooborough. But, hey, why not. Like me, you obviously try to ignore what is so blatantly going on around us.<br /><br />And yes, I had another look at the Obama photo, I counted 3 scarf-less heads. You were right.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-84122241505527932982015-06-30T14:17:16.626+01:002015-06-30T14:17:16.626+01:00I don't want to make an issue of it either, bu...I don't want to make an issue of it either, but you stated that 'ALL' the girls had their heads covered when they quite clearly did not. It is a matter of opinion as to whether the photographs gave a good or bad impression of England; I certainly don't think that they gave a bad one, an opinion which is evidently poles apart from yours.<br />I think the issue of ' racism' was raised in your reply to angryparsnips comment. I made my comment in reply to your statement that there are 'no-go areas for white people in Northern Britain'. This suggests rather strongly that non- white people in some areas are 'racist' ; why else would it be impossible for white people to enter certain areas of the towns and cities in which they live? It is for that reason that I reported the statistics for the town where I live, and the treatment I received at the hands of fellow white Britons whilst holidaying in the South of England.<br />There were race riots in Bradford, Oldham and Burnley 14 years ago. I cannot comment on your recollection of what was said by the Mayor's son, as after 14 years I cannot recall the coverage that I saw, despite the fact that I live in Lancashire and events would have been covered extensively on local news. After 14 years I suspect that what I, personally, was able to recall would be somewhat unreliable. You are obviously very different in your ability to recall exact details of what was said.<br />Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01729719876504930455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-11801496415364633682015-06-30T11:24:14.617+01:002015-06-30T11:24:14.617+01:00very interesting discusion here Cro...well done fo...very interesting discusion here Cro...well done for posting this and will be interested to see what happens up here in the NW.Gerry Snapehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269492251928362799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-26580924138196104772015-06-30T04:51:21.389+01:002015-06-30T04:51:21.389+01:00I don't want to make an issue of this, but we ...I don't want to make an issue of this, but we all saw the photos that were sent world-wide, and they didn't give a good impression of England.<br /><br />I also remember very clearly some riots happening in the north (Bradford maybe), where the local Mayor's son was explaining to the press that he lived in a Muslim area, and that Hindus had no right to be there. Again this is England, not some Muslim enclave.<br /><br />This piece was about the problem at Calais, and the difference between genuine asylum seekers and financial tourists. I don't understand how we got onto the subject of 'racism'. Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-69333355147973438802015-06-30T04:43:26.439+01:002015-06-30T04:43:26.439+01:00Very true, and it's this problem that taints t...Very true, and it's this problem that taints those with genuine refugee status.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-19588440555625798172015-06-30T00:09:40.114+01:002015-06-30T00:09:40.114+01:00I live in Northern England in a town which, in the...I live in Northern England in a town which, in the last census, had 20% of its population declare itself to be black or Asian - that's around 30,000 people. That percentage is way above the national average, and also way above the 5% of the population of the UK which is Muslim. I was surprised to find that the figure for my town was so high, because quite honestly I don't feel that there are that many black and Asian people here, and there are no ' no-go areas for white people' here. What I have noticed is the sterile ' all white' nature of some of the areas in England in which I have holidayed; areas in which myself and my husband were singled out and receied disparaging remarks purely for being 'Northern'. I hate to think what would have happened if our skin was other than white. I will never holiday in those counties again, and will instead spend my money in the North.<br />Having done a quick google to check that I was correct about the girls at the school, I found photographs here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/michelle-obama/11677903/Michelle-Obama-in-London.html.<br />I was correct in my recollection of the news report, as, contrary to your assertion that ALL the girls were wearing headscarves, it is quite plain that was not the case. Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01729719876504930455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-91248737744565690252015-06-29T20:37:26.182+01:002015-06-29T20:37:26.182+01:00If, as is reported, these illegals come from despe...If, as is reported, these illegals come from desperately poor countries, how do they seem to know exactly where to go (the UK)? If they are so desperately poor and have nothing, where do they get the money from to pay their fares? Many seem to have mobile phones, so that they can phone home ! We should ask how many are genuine, and how many are being planted to agitate discontent and terrorism in future, in the countries that take them in.<br />Britain seems to give sanctuary to those who later turn round and demand that we abide by their rules, and live our lives according to their arcane, and totally unacceptable, beliefs.<br />Rachel is absolutely right.Coppa's girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16459503600694841117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-28020693303902767112015-06-29T18:39:16.026+01:002015-06-29T18:39:16.026+01:00That, unfortunately, is it in a nutshell.That, unfortunately, is it in a nutshell.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-90062110028047854432015-06-29T18:38:33.880+01:002015-06-29T18:38:33.880+01:00Italy doesn't want its present influx, so who ...Italy doesn't want its present influx, so who has to have them?Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-12378395214891454972015-06-29T18:36:56.782+01:002015-06-29T18:36:56.782+01:00Certain parts of Northern Britain are no-go areas ...Certain parts of Northern Britain are no-go areas for white people. When Mrs Obama visited London recently, she was taken to a school where ALL the girls wore head-scarves etc. Something isn't right somewhere.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-16834836267345023162015-06-29T17:15:42.244+01:002015-06-29T17:15:42.244+01:00awwww the words a liberal cry. What has happened c...awwww the words a liberal cry. What has happened centuries ago much by your beloved France and England.<br />I wonder how you would feel if tomorrow 35 thousand illegals just appeared in your city and land and you had to support them. Then the next day another wave of several thousands appeared.<br />Plus the next day more. <br />It happens along the border here every year with Mexico's blessing. They don't want them so they send them across the border.angryparsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17236094827257446781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-81896200233203674322015-06-29T17:07:27.219+01:002015-06-29T17:07:27.219+01:00Yes and no to what Donna said.
Their are some who...Yes and no to what Donna said. <br />Their are some who work hard but what you forget they still support the illegal system by living here. They owe money to the cartels. They smuggle drugs, women and children for the sex trade. They work for pennies on the dollar under the table and because of this they have changed the way legal citizens are paid. For years now try to get a job in a border state. You are hired as an independent contractor. That meant no benefits, health care and wages are at rock bottom and you save money to pay your taxes.<br />Daughter is a working poor, works hard but does not make enough money to survive but not able to to apply for the free money and food stamps the illegals get.<br />What we forget is went we pay an illegal, it is diminish money that supports the running of a state services. <br />If I blindfolded you and dropped you into much of Arizona you would swear you were in a third world country.<br />California especially a great example of this. Once a strong state it is now a state where more money is going out and less and less coming in. <br />The aging infrastructure is broken and it is now to the point of no return. California has become a black hole that soon will implode and suck everything near it into oblivion.angryparsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17236094827257446781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-11393810401633862322015-06-29T16:49:59.855+01:002015-06-29T16:49:59.855+01:00And seeing as you are a member of the Cherokee Tri...And seeing as you are a member of the Cherokee Tribe which border would that be Janet ?A Heron's Viewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563706152609630696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-48765073555546308972015-06-29T16:46:50.540+01:002015-06-29T16:46:50.540+01:00I will say it one more time. If it was just freedo...I will say it one more time. If it was just freedom they wanted they would skip and jump for joy wherever they landed. Instead of that they head for the UK. We are not the land of milk and honey and we are full up and the honey has gone. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-89827061288891144342015-06-29T16:08:13.984+01:002015-06-29T16:08:13.984+01:00I agree that the Mexicans I see that are here ille...I agree that the Mexicans I see that are here illegally actually contribute far more than they take. They do all sorts of jobs "under the table" so to speak for slave wages. In my opinion, the business owners who hire them because they can pay them next to nothing and get rich from their labor are scum and THEY should be deported if anyone is going to be!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12512800812290518552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-78831357893844899482015-06-29T15:43:56.257+01:002015-06-29T15:43:56.257+01:00They'll probably ship them to Mexico so they c...They'll probably ship them to Mexico so they can cross our border, that's what everyone else does.Mac n' Janethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05732924562630675589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-37730650347801807062015-06-29T15:14:37.345+01:002015-06-29T15:14:37.345+01:00At my last location, we had a large contingent of ...At my last location, we had a large contingent of Mexicans. They did as Donna said, working hard at thankless jobs, sending most of their money home to Mexico. Over time, they saved up enough so they could bring their families into the US, and by the time I left my last location, there were many thriving Mexican businesses.megan blogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04555646904983619596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-5854505828986438372015-06-29T15:10:11.690+01:002015-06-29T15:10:11.690+01:00Most of the nasty or unpleasant jobs in the UK are...Most of the nasty or unpleasant jobs in the UK are done by immigrants; the place would fall apart without them!Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-39826769175480409102015-06-29T14:29:10.495+01:002015-06-29T14:29:10.495+01:00It's all very easy for us to criticise when we...It's all very easy for us to criticise when we live such a priveledged life. Many of these people are trying to escape from war, opression and poverty and just want to find a better life BUT, this isn't the right way to solve their problems and I don't know what is. We really must do something about it …. our country is far too small to take every waif and stray I'm afraid but I do feel for many of them. I don't know what the answer is. XXXXJacqueline @ HOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06154045482594773377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-12617352720824804822015-06-29T14:15:07.240+01:002015-06-29T14:15:07.240+01:00In the US, the Mexican's (the poor ones) come ...In the US, the Mexican's (the poor ones) come to America to make money, not for handouts. they pay the 'coyotes" $3000. and get 4 tries to make it across the border at terrible risk. They work hard and do the jobs no one here wants to do. I once heard one say, "Yankees is lazy". They send all their money home to families to build their own houses then go back home eventually to Mexico. Our country would come to a stop if all the Mexican immigrants left, yet it has become a political issue for the conservatives who scream that they are evil and we should build a fence to keep them out. What a joke.donna bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507579686738843451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-29137465228422271442015-06-29T13:31:49.581+01:002015-06-29T13:31:49.581+01:00They look like young men jumping fences and cuttin...They look like young men jumping fences and cutting tilts to get into lorries and not a pregnant woman in sight. If it is just survival why don't they stay in France or Italy or Malta, why is it only the UK they want? Think about it.Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-39785373759122102812015-06-29T13:02:07.552+01:002015-06-29T13:02:07.552+01:00It is a sad and difficult situation for both sides...It is a sad and difficult situation for both sides. These horrible wars all over this world have left the survivors with little options and they do what they must to save their families. What would we do in such a situation? Starting Over, Accepting Changes - Maybehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032033918798053005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-86968256697487334452015-06-29T11:45:03.237+01:002015-06-29T11:45:03.237+01:00As I said in para 6, unfortunately they all get ta...As I said in para 6, unfortunately they all get tarred with the same brush; the genuine refugees and the financial tourists.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-24228396473766846122015-06-29T11:42:20.024+01:002015-06-29T11:42:20.024+01:00Who called you a 'leftie'? Certainly not m...Who called you a 'leftie'? Certainly not me, although you do seem to be making excuses for yourself. Be proud of it Heron... stick to your convictions (however crazy).Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-56387726247667102242015-06-29T10:57:57.957+01:002015-06-29T10:57:57.957+01:00I largely agree with Heron Cro, as I have said tod...I largely agree with Heron Cro, as I have said today on Tom's blog. I find it all just too distressing. Added to that to see tiny babies and pregnant women being pulled from the sea where they have virtually been dumped by people traffickers is totally unacceptable and yet I as an individual can do nothing. I then read of super rich buying their flats in London and I despair.The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.com