tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post682107985616833380..comments2024-03-28T12:44:19.546+00:00Comments on Magnon's Meanderings: French bureaucracy.Cro Magnonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-5394194595848703802020-08-20T20:35:26.594+01:002020-08-20T20:35:26.594+01:00Ha ha, as someone upthread said, I wrote all my pa...Ha ha, as someone upthread said, I wrote all my passwords down (and put a password on the document). I'm surprised they won't send your password to your email address though. Oy vey!Treadershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613671137557939083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-53137537419207291352020-08-20T04:07:29.385+01:002020-08-20T04:07:29.385+01:00We always used to say that if you could afford a s...We always used to say that if you could afford a suit (sons of farmers couldn't), and got yourself a job in a bank, or the Mayor's Office, or the Post Office, you suddenly had the right to treat others as sh*t. Such people still treat others as inferior idiots.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-51174159760055994292020-08-20T04:04:15.014+01:002020-08-20T04:04:15.014+01:00Only enough for a very small house! Even so, it...Only enough for a very small house! Even so, it's better than nothing.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-37232121942422874912020-08-20T04:02:28.401+01:002020-08-20T04:02:28.401+01:00Quite right. I've had to put up with all this ...Quite right. I've had to put up with all this bureaucratic nonsense for the past 47 years; I've had enough.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-83491025170557548832020-08-20T04:01:08.327+01:002020-08-20T04:01:08.327+01:00I will print it, but first I need the password. Wh...I will print it, but first I need the password. Why I need a username and a password just to look at my phone/internet bill, I'm not sure.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-66689387181189316202020-08-20T03:59:23.768+01:002020-08-20T03:59:23.768+01:00The problem is, you NEVER get used to it. When I f...The problem is, you NEVER get used to it. When I first came to live here in 1972, I was stunned by all the officialdom; nothing has changed.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-25329640852614652232020-08-19T23:31:02.761+01:002020-08-19T23:31:02.761+01:00Making things difficult is job security and import...Making things difficult is job security and importance for some. Your experience confirms bureaucracy and petty officials are alive and well. Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14473063249106111719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-73664423967991328232020-08-19T19:50:50.458+01:002020-08-19T19:50:50.458+01:00Take a deep breath and chant "ohm" repea...Take a deep breath and chant "ohm" repeatedly as if you were a Hare Krishna monk in saffron robes. I hope you didn't leave a fortune in the savings account.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-88423461522773474062020-08-19T19:18:16.281+01:002020-08-19T19:18:16.281+01:00Cro, there should be a way to make things a bit si...Cro, there should be a way to make things a bit simpler for us retired folks. I don't want any special favors, but I also don't want a heart attack from high blood pressure every time something frustrating pops up.Rianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09472421271620543536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-237609524565068532020-08-19T18:20:19.637+01:002020-08-19T18:20:19.637+01:00Can't you print your own from your electricity...Can't you print your own from your electricity company's website (that's what I'm usually asked for)? Or go to your Mairie and ask them to do an attestation de résidence?Treadershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613671137557939083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-55508300658957321772020-08-19T16:34:24.333+01:002020-08-19T16:34:24.333+01:00Tigger says it all for greece but it definitely he...Tigger says it all for greece but it definitely helps if you live in a small village/island and know someone in the office or are the second cousin of their godfather. <br />Sleep on it and continue on. Or in your case that is not the advice you want to hear. You'll be sleeping even less now your mind has this chew overlocal alienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586011850451326646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-88335483336313573222020-08-19T15:46:37.215+01:002020-08-19T15:46:37.215+01:00I've mostly used the same password for the few...I've mostly used the same password for the few sites that require such things, but I think this one was given to me by the phone Co, and I probably took no notice of it.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-81023109357476805412020-08-19T15:07:47.700+01:002020-08-19T15:07:47.700+01:00It might be worth your time to make a list of all ...It might be worth your time to make a list of all your NAMES and PASSWORDS in a document, save it, print it and keep it handy by your computer! <br />I have always done that because I cannot remember passwords ... ever! Marcia LaRuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13907511382483491066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-72595977544180778202020-08-19T14:48:51.431+01:002020-08-19T14:48:51.431+01:00I certainly agree that things should be made easie...I certainly agree that things should be made easier for retired people. The last thing we want are administrative complications; we have enough to deal with by just getting old.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-20116062345879315052020-08-19T14:22:47.003+01:002020-08-19T14:22:47.003+01:00I think as I get older there is more bureaucracy i...I think as I get older there is more bureaucracy in things that involve me. I can understand some of it because of security and scammers but it can be maddening at a time in my life that I have worn out my patience and want things easier. Starting Over, Accepting Changes - Maybehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032033918798053005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-17353790335462671172020-08-19T12:12:30.283+01:002020-08-19T12:12:30.283+01:00I hope they don't do that with me here!I hope they don't do that with me here!Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-79701081037514773262020-08-19T12:11:38.748+01:002020-08-19T12:11:38.748+01:00They said it had to be sent to the address I'd...They said it had to be sent to the address I'd used to start my phone account. V odd.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-54337269085441852662020-08-19T12:10:31.691+01:002020-08-19T12:10:31.691+01:00This is why I try to keep well away from bureaucra...This is why I try to keep well away from bureaucracy.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-21328025168484328072020-08-19T12:09:27.302+01:002020-08-19T12:09:27.302+01:00Believe me, this is the easiest way to do what I n...Believe me, this is the easiest way to do what I need to do. It all sounds crazy, but that's how things are done.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-72046599403994512302020-08-19T10:47:39.284+01:002020-08-19T10:47:39.284+01:00It is the same in the UK Cro....worse actually. My...It is the same in the UK Cro....worse actually. My bank would not accept a computer print out of a telephone bill. It had to be a hard copy sent by the telephone company. For me it wasn’t a question of printing off the bill. I had to sign back on to getting paper bills and wait for one to arrive in the mail. I hope your post office accepts a print out.Travellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02069278767333726796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-74906845912570884042020-08-19T10:32:15.438+01:002020-08-19T10:32:15.438+01:00Sending a new password by snail mail - now that is...Sending a new password by snail mail - now that is weird. Susan Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14400003572211042194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-30591494578520512192020-08-19T10:26:10.575+01:002020-08-19T10:26:10.575+01:00And here's me envying you living in France!And here's me envying you living in France!The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-37316122648425383312020-08-19T09:42:39.983+01:002020-08-19T09:42:39.983+01:00I get most of this but that your new password will...I get most of this but that your new password will be sent by post and arrive in seven days is extraordinary. Maybe you should call the utility company and ask them to reset your password, but then they may well ask you what your old password is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-78859260307303702682020-08-19T08:47:01.651+01:002020-08-19T08:47:01.651+01:00I once showed interest in buying a small house on ...I once showed interest in buying a small house on a small Greek island. When I heard of all the bureaucracy involved; I changed my mind! It was bad enough here (pre-EU).Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-33689694229752777152020-08-19T08:39:14.689+01:002020-08-19T08:39:14.689+01:00Greece could teach them a few extra layers of that...Greece could teach them a few extra layers of that bureaucracy - like having to take everything to the KEP to have it all verified as original and signatures witnessed before rejoining the queue at the post office...only to find you still don't have 2 copies of all the original documents they wanted to see (because they wan to keep a copy and don't make their own). It's woeful.Tigger's Mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829665785202495073noreply@blogger.com