tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post6693977749886203413..comments2024-03-29T08:01:33.349+00:00Comments on Magnon's Meanderings: Fox v Badger.Cro Magnonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-28698737581963981362018-01-04T04:38:41.158+00:002018-01-04T04:38:41.158+00:00If you listened to a saboteur, you'd think tha...If you listened to a saboteur, you'd think that Foxes and their Cubs where being torn to shreds every few seconds. They love to perpetuate the myths,Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-61204678737079545922018-01-04T04:36:45.206+00:002018-01-04T04:36:45.206+00:00I was looking for a modern, vaguely insulting word...I was looking for a modern, vaguely insulting word, that describes the seemingly 'do-gooder' lefties that turn-up everywhere that shows a hint of Toryism. I agree, it's a horrible word, and I shan't use it again.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-3562587579654445452018-01-04T04:32:38.918+00:002018-01-04T04:32:38.918+00:00The one thing we can all agree on, Weave, is that ...The one thing we can all agree on, Weave, is that you'll never hear a saboteur criticising the Fox for killing Hens or Lambs. Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-46462653479050767002018-01-03T18:30:29.936+00:002018-01-03T18:30:29.936+00:00Even in the best hunts in the land like the Quorn ...Even in the best hunts in the land like the Quorn they would hunt and never see a fox. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-10955904790976954372018-01-03T17:02:56.160+00:002018-01-03T17:02:56.160+00:00A word of warning. I was roundly criticized at Chr...A word of warning. I was roundly criticized at Christmas dinner by my 15 year old granddaughter for using the word "snowflake". I can only use it to describe the weather.Jane Karwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10873112386908974146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-53755051902979941932018-01-03T15:44:56.421+00:002018-01-03T15:44:56.421+00:00Reading through all these comments Cro just makes ...Reading through all these comments Cro just makes me realise that the arguments will run and run - nobody will ever agree. So I shall continue to enjoy seeing our local hunt - they rarely catch a fox anyway - the fox is a wily creature.The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-17836487239518614972018-01-03T13:52:10.460+00:002018-01-03T13:52:10.460+00:00Drag hunting 'theoretically' should be exa...Drag hunting 'theoretically' should be exactly that, but a few hounds will always chase a Fox if they pick up the scent. My own dog chases Deer and Wild Boar almost daily.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-58556016361095805162018-01-03T13:50:10.797+00:002018-01-03T13:50:10.797+00:00I believe they have to be extremely hungry to eat ...I believe they have to be extremely hungry to eat 'meat'.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-14254646108156755892018-01-03T13:48:39.354+00:002018-01-03T13:48:39.354+00:00I think it's the 'upper class pageantry...I think it's the 'upper class pageantry' that they don't like, now that the actual hunting has been banned.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-52859550255548523862018-01-03T13:45:28.016+00:002018-01-03T13:45:28.016+00:00My Chicken run was extremely Fox proof. The wire n...My Chicken run was extremely Fox proof. The wire netting was buried a foot underground, and the sides were about 6 ft high. The wee bugger just climbed over the top. Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-89470047683940682522018-01-03T13:30:41.737+00:002018-01-03T13:30:41.737+00:00Fox hunting may be banned on paper, but reality is...Fox hunting may be banned on paper, but reality is it goes on as before!. Treated as a jolly hockey sticks outing, to kill a trophy fox as a sport!. Land owners don,t care hardly ever get caught. Fines are just pocket change to those that hunt!.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16612586606042540330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-65690202087465947162018-01-03T13:07:06.220+00:002018-01-03T13:07:06.220+00:00I'm afraid you are slightly wrong about badger...I'm afraid you are slightly wrong about badgers,whilst I would never condone culling, their numbers are so high sometimes that they are just as dangerous to poultry as foxes areJohn Going Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958171262765033946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-54318799434920273252018-01-03T11:35:17.274+00:002018-01-03T11:35:17.274+00:00I love the pageantry of the Hunt. I would be sad t...I love the pageantry of the Hunt. I would be sad to see it disappear but I don't approve of any live animal being hunted down for sport.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10787732343048847565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-7696242092231173902018-01-03T11:03:06.237+00:002018-01-03T11:03:06.237+00:00I know the master of a big hunt in Oxfordshire. Hi...I know the master of a big hunt in Oxfordshire. His father-in-law told me that he continued to hunt actual foxes ever since the ban, and has been prosecuted for it twice on the rare occasions that hunt sabs were in the right place to witness it. He just paid the enormous fines and carried on hunting. He is extremely wealthy and hunts on his own land. I would not ever go hunting for pleasure, mainly because I would find it too exciting, not relaxing. Whenever a fox kills all the chickens or pheasants in a pen, it is always the human's fault for not fox-proofing it. If foxes were really clever, they would return every night for one more bird, but they are not programmed for that.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-40913640059309317132018-01-03T10:09:52.250+00:002018-01-03T10:09:52.250+00:00Watching the hunt go by was part of my Surrey upbr...Watching the hunt go by was part of my Surrey upbringing. The people who followed on horseback were not blood-hungry sadists, just ordinary folk who enjoyed a day out riding with others. I am very much wildlife friendly, but even I understand that certain wild animals need to be 'managed' for their own good. I'm afraid that many of the saboteurs are very blinkered in their attitude. Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-44482628632254192712018-01-03T09:57:16.562+00:002018-01-03T09:57:16.562+00:00We (inadvertently) saw the Boxing Day hunt at Petw...We (inadvertently) saw the Boxing Day hunt at Petworth the other week. It was quite a visual and aural spectacle. I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have been hunting once in my teens well before it became a political act. I was invited and lent a horse and thought it would be an experience and it was exhilarating and exciting, But then I've catapulted rabbits to skin and eat and caught wild salmon in Scotland in my wild foraging days. In my garden in the Surrey Hills I have regular visits from badgers, foxes and roe deer and roe deer in particular are becoming a real problem at the allotment and dividing opinion. At the beginning of my allotment career (almost 20 years ago) there were several oldies with shot gun licences (including the local butcher) who would shoot. This no longer happens, partly because the fields behind our allotment site are now used for "horsiculture". We visited the Ditchling museum of Arts and Crafts the other day and I bought a small woodcut made and printed by a local artist titled "Dashing Fox". It epitomises everything I love about foxes - surely one of our most appealing wild animals. Sarah https://www.blogger.com/profile/14230327066600698804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-5482788258048767912018-01-03T09:57:01.536+00:002018-01-03T09:57:01.536+00:00They are there to express their anger (towards the...They are there to express their anger (towards the world in general). Mistakenly, hunting offer a perfect opportunity.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-15347331472227947552018-01-03T09:26:13.710+00:002018-01-03T09:26:13.710+00:00Balaclava clad louts with weapons, hunt saboteurs....Balaclava clad louts with weapons, hunt saboteurs. The fox means nothing to them. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-19425604649049705662018-01-03T09:22:54.841+00:002018-01-03T09:22:54.841+00:00Hunting Foxes is now banned in the UK (since 2004)...Hunting Foxes is now banned in the UK (since 2004). Previously a Fox was killed in a couple of seconds; being usually either old or infirm. Culling by other methods is often very cruel. I'm not sure why anyone should 'harrass' the horse riding community; I guarantee they wouldn't try it at The Grand National.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-43862121615393530792018-01-03T09:17:01.741+00:002018-01-03T09:17:01.741+00:00The followers of the hunt are not hunting 'for...The followers of the hunt are not hunting 'for fun'. The Master and The Whipper-in are the two people who organise the actual hunting on behalf of farmers who invite them onto their land; the others are all simply there to ride-out with each other. There are many misconceptions about hunting.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-59963318784940510842018-01-03T09:11:47.810+00:002018-01-03T09:11:47.810+00:00Isn't rather a lot of cruelty involved towards...Isn't rather a lot of cruelty involved towards foxes during a hunt? I can't imagine the terror produced by being pursued by hounds and in the back of their minds, their young. If the number of foxes is out of control, then humanely cull them. They are not much lower on any scale than our domesticated dogs. Oh, and Comrade, I thoroughly approve of the harassment of those in hunting pink. Your point about badgers is apt and what happened was outrageous. I am disappointed to learn that it is clearly still happening. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-53138936076338229892018-01-03T08:50:48.382+00:002018-01-03T08:50:48.382+00:00The reason the hunt saboteurs are still active is ...The reason the hunt saboteurs are still active is because fox hunting continues despite it being illegal. It is a 'sport' loved by the wealthy who have the local law enforcement in their pockets. I understand farmers needing to protect their livestock but detest it being done for fun. It sickens me. (That also goes for dog fighting at the other end of the social scale.)Andi's English Attichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04136573194920355678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-28235130863001822142018-01-03T08:43:49.660+00:002018-01-03T08:43:49.660+00:00Sums up the state of Britain when we find ourselve...Sums up the state of Britain when we find ourselves identifying the two greatest achievements of a government being gay marriage and culling of badgers. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-74683393503683750112018-01-03T08:00:38.145+00:002018-01-03T08:00:38.145+00:00Breeding their own Foxes sounds both ridiculous an...Breeding their own Foxes sounds both ridiculous and pointless. Much of the point was to reduce the population by taking-out the old and infirm. Out here the hunters breed their own Pheasants, let them go, then shoot them still on the ground, all in one morning.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-75351197073677453842018-01-03T07:47:02.848+00:002018-01-03T07:47:02.848+00:00I agree with you but would like to add that fox hu...I agree with you but would like to add that fox hunting is a day out for the unwashed SJWs. Hunts did breed foxes which was a bit silly. Your badger looks like road kill to me. Gay marriage and culling badgers were a couple of Cameron's greatest achievements. The referendum was his finest and his swansong.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.com