tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post3667243304127982891..comments2024-03-29T05:26:30.522+00:00Comments on Magnon's Meanderings: I still don't get it!Cro Magnonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-87362745810930304552016-01-15T08:46:49.206+00:002016-01-15T08:46:49.206+00:00I'm even more puzzled than you Cro after readi...I'm even more puzzled than you Cro after reading all that.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-72489573416983034072016-01-13T16:50:48.633+00:002016-01-13T16:50:48.633+00:00From reading most of the comments it appears that ...From reading most of the comments it appears that the Dublin Accords or whatever they are called are a thing of the past, merely tossed away by Merkel (is this legal?) and that anyone entering the EU schengen zone should be allowed to go where he likes. Maybe nobody told France that the UK is not in the schengen zone. Merkel said that the end of the schengen could bring about the end of the euro. That's because its the basically same countries who use the euro who have the schengen. If France doesn't want them and they don't want to look after them and they don't want to send them back to Morocco they should logically send them to a neighbouring euro zone/ schengen country who will take them. They should ask Germany, Italy. Spain and Belgium. Gwil Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03305768121713053837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-32605801377280713702016-01-13T16:35:35.836+00:002016-01-13T16:35:35.836+00:00Austria is sending economic migrants back to the B...Austria is sending economic migrants back to the Balkans. They are only taking refugees. <br />France sent 8,000 people back to Rumania when Sarkozy was in charge. Many were sleeping in cardboard boxes under the bridges of the Seine I believe. Not good for tourism. Gwil Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03305768121713053837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-38259443751472667812016-01-13T07:51:17.201+00:002016-01-13T07:51:17.201+00:00Yes well if you'd read it in the tine of voice...Yes well if you'd read it in the tine of voice I wrote it you'd have got it. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-33520789094786137882016-01-13T07:08:36.296+00:002016-01-13T07:08:36.296+00:00All this still doesn't answer my question; why...All this still doesn't answer my question; why are the French keeping all these people in a squalid camp, when they could be moving them on by giving them the necessary papers? This has nothing to do with starving immigrants.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-25280359720942952372016-01-13T04:45:44.608+00:002016-01-13T04:45:44.608+00:00Aren't there some empty islands off Scotland s...Aren't there some empty islands off Scotland somewhere? Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-17186000665280810252016-01-13T04:44:42.299+00:002016-01-13T04:44:42.299+00:00That 'British way of life' has already gon...That 'British way of life' has already gone. I find it quite shocking.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-68487678136285541672016-01-13T04:41:57.174+00:002016-01-13T04:41:57.174+00:00The only logical explanation to why the wealthiest...The only logical explanation to why the wealthiest of the Arab countries won't accept them, is that they know what sort of people they are, and they have enough trouble as it is.<br /><br />On the question of religion, I believe it's the Saudis who are paying for all the huge number of mosques being built across Europe; I wonder why!Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-4204763242532161022016-01-12T22:08:57.792+00:002016-01-12T22:08:57.792+00:00Put them on an island.Throw away the key and let t...Put them on an island.Throw away the key and let the racist locals guard them.Tony Abbot did this and stopped the boats. Genius!!Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08752041804512955655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-38420183151345085542016-01-12T20:18:32.995+00:002016-01-12T20:18:32.995+00:00What brilliant, analytical minds you both have. It...What brilliant, analytical minds you both have. It's so good to get the perspective from both sides of the Atlantic, even if one does come from Norfolk.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-7283142505309931772016-01-12T20:16:32.758+00:002016-01-12T20:16:32.758+00:00Or is being shot at, along with his relatives.Or is being shot at, along with his relatives.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-12099464243153446162016-01-12T17:39:17.096+00:002016-01-12T17:39:17.096+00:00No logical reason why the French want to keep them...No logical reason why the French want to keep them in Calais, except that they probably don't know what to do with them now that the UK obviously won't accept them.<br />If they do get to the UK, are they all part of some grand scheme to undermine the British way of life even further? They might initially disappear, but will the majority resurface later, toting guns or wired up as suicide bombers?Coppa's girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16459503600694841117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-53831264550843622302016-01-12T15:33:09.568+00:002016-01-12T15:33:09.568+00:00Good post and certainly perplexing, if not somewha...Good post and certainly perplexing, if not somewhat humourous points!<br /><br />The bigger question that begs an answer: why don't the surrounding oil rich Muslim countries take in these refugees? Why do these refugees automatically head to Europe and then eventually demand to practice their faith without limitations (in a way no other religion in their countries are allowed to)? Wouldn't it behoove them to stay in a more Muslim centric country not at war, etc?!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17712046924863763290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-36483793364836928342016-01-12T15:27:38.588+00:002016-01-12T15:27:38.588+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17712046924863763290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-10217632591140196982016-01-12T14:11:34.982+00:002016-01-12T14:11:34.982+00:00Of course they don't mind you being there. But...Of course they don't mind you being there. But they know you're there. <br />We also get our income from Belgium and spend it here in Ireland where we live.<br />Can't tell you any anecdotes about sunshine and picnics as it's always bloody raining here. ;)Patricia (La Chatte Gitane)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03188119208339437700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-67983310855485812322016-01-12T13:38:06.176+00:002016-01-12T13:38:06.176+00:00I don't have any residency permit for France (...I don't have any residency permit for France (I did when I first came 43 years ago). No-one seems to mind my being here. I'm no drain on the economy, in fact I import all my income from the UK, so I'm the perfect 'foreigner'. The only time we've had an official visit was yonks ago when we first arrived, and some people wanted to see the car that I'd imported. By this time I'd sold the car, so the Customs Men all had a picnic in the sunshine before heading off back to Bordeaux.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-83776426549476080022016-01-12T13:28:53.602+00:002016-01-12T13:28:53.602+00:00English language might be one reason. But I would ...English language might be one reason. But I would think French is a second language to a lot of North Africans.<br />Just had a discussion with the other half about it and he thinks it might be because one can 'disappear' easily in the UK once you manage to enter. Lack of ID-cards and the necessary follow-up bureaucracy from the moment you were born or have settled as a foreigner(like in the rest of Europe).<br />Ireland is a similar case (but who wants to live here unless you're a feckin' hippy);)<br />No official body has come and looked into us as foreign nationals, ever. The only officials that have knowledge and follow up on us is the Belgian Embassy.<br />When we settled in France and back in Belgium we got a visit from the local police who took our data and cross referenced them with whoever, whatever. And quite frankly I don't care if this is a intrusion on my personal freedom.<br />In this case I'm all for bureaucracy.<br /><br />Patricia (La Chatte Gitane)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03188119208339437700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-47489263952722668852016-01-12T13:08:54.703+00:002016-01-12T13:08:54.703+00:00That is why they are called economic migrants and ...That is why they are called economic migrants and not asylum seekers.Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-85025634127484958182016-01-12T13:07:53.226+00:002016-01-12T13:07:53.226+00:00It's all relative. If a doctor runs out of mo...It's all relative. If a doctor runs out of money he is spending too much and hasn't done his basic economics.Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-36715789773839948482016-01-12T13:06:43.985+00:002016-01-12T13:06:43.985+00:00It all a big mystery.It all a big mystery.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-69990603066334036562016-01-12T13:05:44.264+00:002016-01-12T13:05:44.264+00:00My point is not why they want to get to the UK, bu...My point is not why they want to get to the UK, but why the French seem to be keeping them in that ghastly Calais camp site, and not helping them move on.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-69869710493680895282016-01-12T12:28:58.020+00:002016-01-12T12:28:58.020+00:00People with money go to Morocco for their holidays...People with money go to Morocco for their holidays. Moroccans with no jobs go to Europe in search of work. Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865639536906898385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-16053398256278329772016-01-12T12:24:14.910+00:002016-01-12T12:24:14.910+00:00It's all beyond me too Cro, I can't waste ...It's all beyond me too Cro, I can't waste time getting all het up about it I've got some crochet to do. ha ha.<br />Briony<br />xcrafty cat cornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251582085392890533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-64276314183236532402016-01-12T12:05:44.395+00:002016-01-12T12:05:44.395+00:00The people at Calais are not strictly 'refugee...The people at Calais are not strictly 'refugees', most of them are economic migrants. This still doesn't change why France is herding them into a filthy camp, and doing nothing about them.Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227064496185547313.post-4096070648194199802016-01-12T11:39:09.413+00:002016-01-12T11:39:09.413+00:00I suspect the reason is the language - more people...I suspect the reason is the language - more people from other countries speak at least some English, rather than German or French.Shooting Parrotshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07503757845024102476noreply@blogger.com